Comments on: Nokia and Symbian to become one; royalty-free, open source roadmap http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/ Distilling market noise into market sense. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:13:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Google G1 Phone - FREE - £40 pm (800 x/mins), unlimited TXTS & BROWSING + £60 Quidco @ T-Mobile - Page 3 - HotUKDeals Forum http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-61068 Google G1 Phone - FREE - £40 pm (800 x/mins), unlimited TXTS & BROWSING + £60 Quidco @ T-Mobile - Page 3 - HotUKDeals Forum Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:58:26 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-61068 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] would not buy neither, wait for symbian to become open sourc THis here: http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/200...ource-roadmap/ Last edited by rash : Today at [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] would not buy neither, wait for symbian to become open sourc THis here: http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/200…ource-roadmap/ Last edited by rash : Today at [...]

]]> By: On the road again: Implications of symbian going open source http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-60550 On the road again: Implications of symbian going open source Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:02:45 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-60550 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] blog post pretty much sums up the implications for mobile industry of Nokia buying out rest of the stake in [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] blog post pretty much sums up the implications for mobile industry of Nokia buying out rest of the stake in [...]

]]> By: HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - What is your pick(s) as the iPhone "killer"? http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-57604 HowardForums: Your Mobile Phone Community & Resource - What is your pick(s) as the iPhone "killer"? Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:32:29 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-57604 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] now. Does anyone even know if the applications would even work under this new operating system. http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/20...source-roadmap/ A new, complete operating system is to be formed by merging Symbian OS and S60 in 1H09. Sony [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] now. Does anyone even know if the applications would even work under this new operating system. http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/20…source-roadmap/ A new, complete operating system is to be formed by merging Symbian OS and S60 in 1H09. Sony [...]

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]]> By: Andreas Constantinou http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-57120 Andreas Constantinou Tue, 22 Jul 2008 23:33:25 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-57120 Hi Tim, You post was eaten by the voracious spam filter, hence the long time to reply. Opera, Access have their own problems to deal with, and I expect them to go open source in the near term. Price-wise they have been living in the browsers-are-free market perception for more than a year. Overall, the diminishing of per-unit royalty fees is impacting less the mid-range and certainly not the low range phones (see post on PurpleLabs and Openwave). ENEA's OSE already has a problem of adding value above the kernel, and so its shelf life in its current form is limited. In general I see royalties giving way to NREs for stack integration, customisation and certification, as well as tools and where possible per-user/usage fees. (see related post on Value Quadrants). - Andreas Hi Tim,

You post was eaten by the voracious spam filter, hence the long time to reply.

Opera, Access have their own problems to deal with, and I expect them to go open source in the near term. Price-wise they have been living in the browsers-are-free market perception for more than a year.

Overall, the diminishing of per-unit royalty fees is impacting less the mid-range and certainly not the low range phones (see post on PurpleLabs and Openwave).

ENEA’s OSE already has a problem of adding value above the kernel, and so its shelf life in its current form is limited.

In general I see royalties giving way to NREs for stack integration, customisation and certification, as well as tools and where possible per-user/usage fees. (see related post on Value Quadrants).

- Andreas

]]> By: » Collection of great materials on Symbian going open-source Mobile thoughts http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-56768 » Collection of great materials on Symbian going open-source Mobile thoughts Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:33:17 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/06/nokia-and-symbian-to-become-one-royalty-free-open-source-roadmap/#comment-56768 [...] Andreas Constantinou from Vision Mobile was one of the fastests in commenting the news. He concluded that it was a logical move from Nokia (and Symbian, etc.) both from technical and business point of view: [...] [...] Andreas Constantinou from Vision Mobile was one of the fastests in commenting the news. He concluded that it was a logical move from Nokia (and Symbian, etc.) both from technical and business point of view: [...]

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