Comments on: Capuchin: Sony Ericsson strikes back in the Application Environment…is it a strike? What does it mean for the development platforms fragmentation? http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/ Distilling market noise into market sense. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:53:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Thomas Menguy http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-61322 Thomas Menguy Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:40:30 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-61322 Hi, I'll try to answer the various questions... @truf : about contributing to symbian: I just don't see it, as I don't see SE investing anything now on Symbian (I really think they will le UIQ die...but this is my guess) @Hakan well, yes we agree :-) @will the C905 is said to have this capuchin API inside ...but I didn't tried it yet, but you have now everything available here : https://developer.sonyericsson.com/site/global/docstools/projectcapuchin/p_projectcapuchin.jsp @DarkQueen: sorry if this is what you understood: there is no security in flahttp://www.visionmobile.com/blog/wp-content/themes/VMv2/images/comment-form-submit.gifsh, but capuchin is bringing the built-in security of java/j2me to flash...so yes capuchin seems secure :-) Hope this helps Thomas Hi, I’ll try to answer the various questions…

@truf : about contributing to symbian: I just don’t see it, as I don’t see SE investing anything now on Symbian (I really think they will le UIQ die…but this is my guess)

@Hakan well, yes we agree :-)

@will the C905 is said to have this capuchin API inside …but I didn’t tried it yet, but you have now everything available here : https://developer.sonyericsson.com/site/global/docstools/projectcapuchin/p_projectcapuchin.jsp

@DarkQueen: sorry if this is what you understood: there is no security in flahttp://www.visionmobile.com/blog/wp-content/themes/VMv2/images/comment-form-submit.gifsh, but capuchin is bringing the built-in security of java/j2me to flash…so yes capuchin seems secure :-)

Hope this helps
Thomas

]]> By: Spiludvikling.dk - View topic - Nogen der har rodet med Capuchin? http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-61267 Spiludvikling.dk - View topic - Nogen der har rodet med Capuchin? Wed, 19 Nov 2008 10:03:56 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-61267 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] med det / havde researchet det / havde lavet noget med det?Edit:link for der lidt mere techie' folk:http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/0 ... mentation/ _________________Hans von Knut Skovfoged - Creative Dir. PortaPlay - multiplayer mobile [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] med det / havde researchet det / havde lavet noget med det?Edit:link for der lidt mere techie’ folk:http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/0 … mentation/ _________________Hans von Knut Skovfoged - Creative Dir. PortaPlay - multiplayer mobile [...]

]]> By: Newsy | Mobile Developer http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-61243 Newsy | Mobile Developer Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:15:13 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-61243 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] however, didn't prevent them from announcing a new run-time environment, called Capuchin, mixing Java ME and Adobe Flash Lite technologies. SE is eyed-up on Android, too, not only Windows Mobile (Xperia X1) and Symbian [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] however, didn’t prevent them from announcing a new run-time environment, called Capuchin, mixing Java ME and Adobe Flash Lite technologies. SE is eyed-up on Android, too, not only Windows Mobile (Xperia X1) and Symbian [...]

]]> By: Gabor Torok's Forum Nokia Blog | Transforming mobile industry http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-61016 Gabor Torok's Forum Nokia Blog | Transforming mobile industry Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:19:41 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-61016 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] however, didn't prevent them from announcing a new run-time environment, called Capuchin, mixing Java ME and Adobe Flash Lite technologies. SE is eyed-up on Android, too, not only Windows Mobile (Xperia X1) and Symbian [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] however, didn’t prevent them from announcing a new run-time environment, called Capuchin, mixing Java ME and Adobe Flash Lite technologies. SE is eyed-up on Android, too, not only Windows Mobile (Xperia X1) and Symbian [...]

]]> By: DarkQueen http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60857 DarkQueen Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:45:04 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60857 I'm a bit concerned with the statement that there is no security solution integrated in capuchin. What do you really mean by this? I’m a bit concerned with the statement that there is no security solution integrated in capuchin. What do you really mean by this?

]]> By: sony vaio http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60838 sony vaio Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:18:11 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60838 Thanks Thanks

]]> By: Óçíàòü Google PR äëÿ ñàéòîâ èç âûäà÷è ïî ñâîåìó çàïðîñó. http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60824 Óçíàòü Google PR äëÿ ñàéòîâ èç âûäà÷è ïî ñâîåìó çàïðîñó. Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:03:08 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60824 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/10/17/sony-onlines-mmos-celebrate-halloween/PR:http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-envi...PR:4 http://tamsppc.tamoggemon.com/2008/09/18/sony-ericsson-launches-xperia-blog/PR:0 [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] http://news.bigdownload.com/2008/10/17/sony-onlines-mmos-celebrate-halloween/PR:http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-envi…PR:4 http://tamsppc.tamoggemon.com/2008/09/18/sony-ericsson-launches-xperia-blog/PR:0 [...]

]]> By: VisionMobile :: blog :: Who will win the race of mobile application runtimes? http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60777 VisionMobile :: blog :: Who will win the race of mobile application runtimes? Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:16:35 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60777 [...] Adobe’s Flash Lite reached the 500 million installed base mark in May 2008 and looks set to penetrate even further thanks to the zero royalty fees that Adobe has pledged. The exposure of the underlying Flash Lite device integration layer should enable OEMs to develop more tightly integrated and more consistent FL implementations. Nokia has already integrated Flash Lite 3 on the latest S40 6th Edition; note that the S40 operating system is on more than half of Nokia’s 40% share of annual handset shipments. The Finnish OEM also plans to integrate Flash Lite more tightly on S60 through Platform Services. Sony Ericsson has also been pushing Flash Lite integration into Java apps through project Capuchin (see earlier analysis). [...] [...] Adobe’s Flash Lite reached the 500 million installed base mark in May 2008 and looks set to penetrate even further thanks to the zero royalty fees that Adobe has pledged. The exposure of the underlying Flash Lite device integration layer should enable OEMs to develop more tightly integrated and more consistent FL implementations. Nokia has already integrated Flash Lite 3 on the latest S40 6th Edition; note that the S40 operating system is on more than half of Nokia’s 40% share of annual handset shipments. The Finnish OEM also plans to integrate Flash Lite more tightly on S60 through Platform Services. Sony Ericsson has also been pushing Flash Lite integration into Java apps through project Capuchin (see earlier analysis). [...]

]]> By: will http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60627 will Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:32:12 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60627 Great idea by SonyEricsson. When will we have Capuchin applications to try out on phones? How do they attract FL community to this track? Great idea by SonyEricsson. When will we have Capuchin applications to try out on phones? How do they attract FL community to this track?

]]> By: HÃ¥kan http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60170 HÃ¥kan Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:20:25 +0000 http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2008/09/capuchin-sony-ericsson-strikes-back-in-the-application-environmentis-it-a-strike-what-does-it-mean-for-the-development-platforms-fragmentation/#comment-60170 Thanks for a good overview. I completetly agree with your statement that proprietary APIs are not a problem. They should be seen as enablers for the products they are targeting. Developers can always choose not to use them. They usually only appear when there are no standard APIs for the same functionality. With several stalled APIs in JCP due to legal reasons (BenQ, Qishda) I expect we will see more proprietary APIs soon. Regarding reuse, I think code resuse is overrated. Reuse of specs, requirements, test specs, test setups, and potentially architecture and design is easier and more important. Thanks for a good overview. I completetly agree with your statement that proprietary APIs are not a problem. They should be seen as enablers for the products they are targeting. Developers can always choose not to use them. They usually only appear when there are no standard APIs for the same functionality. With several stalled APIs in JCP due to legal reasons (BenQ, Qishda) I expect we will see more proprietary APIs soon.

Regarding reuse, I think code resuse is overrated. Reuse of specs, requirements, test specs, test setups, and potentially architecture and design is easier and more important.

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