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	<title>Comments on: Why the LiMo Foundation needs to go back to the drawing board</title>
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		<title>By: Andreas Constantinou</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/03/why-the-limo-foundation-needs-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-66336</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Constantinou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Arfan,

I think we pretty much agree. Regarding point 3, LiMo&#039;s argument is that you standardise on middleware, you differentiate on the apps.

Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Arfan,</p>
<p>I think we pretty much agree. Regarding point 3, LiMo&#8217;s argument is that you standardise on middleware, you differentiate on the apps.</p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Arfan</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/03/why-the-limo-foundation-needs-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-66335</link>
		<dc:creator>Arfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 23:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIMO was still born. It&#039;s one of those ideas that are great on paper but awful in practice. 

1) LIMO had to meet the needs of a variety of organisations so lacked focus. 

2) Its flexibility in being able to run on a multitude of hardware platforms was a strength and weakeness. Anyone could take LIMO but would then have to spend more time optimising it. Contrast that to Apple who have control over their hardware and O/s.

3) If everyone used LIMO what would be their differentiation? They would develop the UI and reskin it like Samsung and HTC have done on their Winmo phones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIMO was still born. It&#8217;s one of those ideas that are great on paper but awful in practice. </p>
<p>1) LIMO had to meet the needs of a variety of organisations so lacked focus. </p>
<p>2) Its flexibility in being able to run on a multitude of hardware platforms was a strength and weakeness. Anyone could take LIMO but would then have to spend more time optimising it. Contrast that to Apple who have control over their hardware and O/s.</p>
<p>3) If everyone used LIMO what would be their differentiation? They would develop the UI and reskin it like Samsung and HTC have done on their Winmo phones.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Constantinou</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/03/why-the-limo-foundation-needs-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-63587</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Constantinou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Prateek,

Valid points. Especially the SDK is so far higher than LiMo&#039;s current focus within the stack that they might as well give up that claim and focus on their core competence - i.e. increasing the pool of Linux-based middleware modules for the benefit of members.

I &#039;m sure there&#039;s lots more changes to come within LiMo as well - watch this space.

- Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Prateek,</p>
<p>Valid points. Especially the SDK is so far higher than LiMo&#8217;s current focus within the stack that they might as well give up that claim and focus on their core competence &#8211; i.e. increasing the pool of Linux-based middleware modules for the benefit of members.</p>
<p>I &#8216;m sure there&#8217;s lots more changes to come within LiMo as well &#8211; watch this space.</p>
<p>- Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Prateek</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/03/why-the-limo-foundation-needs-to-go-back-to-the-drawing-board/comment-page-1/#comment-63580</link>
		<dc:creator>Prateek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andreas,
A really good article, You have hit the bulls eye with this article. I totally agree with your views regarding LiMo. I would like to highlight some of my views too.
1. The basic concept of LiMo is wrong. There is no controller i;e controlling responsibility are shared. Unlike android and Symbian Foundation which are controlled by Google and Nokia respectively. This leads to, conflicts between rival companies and hence delays the deliverable.
2. In R1 the number of components are really tiny and I don&#039;t see in R2 also it will increase. This demotivates the developes, OEMS and handset manufactures.
3. There is no SDK till date. If I want to develop application for LiMo phone there is no way. The ecosystem dosent exists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andreas,<br />
A really good article, You have hit the bulls eye with this article. I totally agree with your views regarding LiMo. I would like to highlight some of my views too.<br />
1. The basic concept of LiMo is wrong. There is no controller i;e controlling responsibility are shared. Unlike android and Symbian Foundation which are controlled by Google and Nokia respectively. This leads to, conflicts between rival companies and hence delays the deliverable.<br />
2. In R1 the number of components are really tiny and I don&#8217;t see in R2 also it will increase. This demotivates the developes, OEMS and handset manufactures.<br />
3. There is no SDK till date. If I want to develop application for LiMo phone there is no way. The ecosystem dosent exists.</p>
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		<title>By: linuxmobile</title>
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		<dc:creator>linuxmobile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;ut.ink so? Ok, might be that interesting for everybody. iPhone OS 3.0 isn&#039;t really Linux related, but as it is a competitor, it has to be mentionned. You should read engadget&#039;s mobile OS shootout. What are further findings of this week? Well, you should definitely readAndreas Costantinous opinion about the LiMo platform. I believe that LiMo&#039;s idea wasn&#039;t the worst we&#039;ve ever seen (damn it, I still have to write that article about LiMo...), but now that we have several Linux based platforms like Android, Palm&#039;s WebOS and good old Maemo, that don&#039;t use the benefits of the&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->ut.ink so? Ok, might be that interesting for everybody. iPhone OS 3.0 isn&#8217;t really Linux related, but as it is a competitor, it has to be mentionned. You should read engadget&#8217;s mobile OS shootout. What are further findings of this week? Well, you should definitely readAndreas Costantinous opinion about the LiMo platform. I believe that LiMo&#8217;s idea wasn&#8217;t the worst we&#8217;ve ever seen (damn it, I still have to write that article about LiMo&#8230;), but now that we have several Linux based platforms like Android, Palm&#8217;s WebOS and good old Maemo, that don&#8217;t use the benefits of the<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: What Not How</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Not How</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;mobile Linux distros - the rhyming pair Maemo and LiMo - have been criticised by industry-watchers Vision Mobile for being too, well, boring. Vision Mobile hope that Maemo&#039;s Open Source culture won&#039;t drag Symbian down and that both Symbian andLiMo will jump on the iPhone bandwagon. But a mix of dull reliability and adaptability is Linux&#039;s strength. It comes partly from the cross-pollination of the various collaboration groups. For example, I now forsee some Maemo/Moblin collaboration on the horizon, especially since they share&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->mobile Linux distros &#8211; the rhyming pair Maemo and LiMo &#8211; have been criticised by industry-watchers Vision Mobile for being too, well, boring. Vision Mobile hope that Maemo&#8217;s Open Source culture won&#8217;t drag Symbian down and that both Symbian andLiMo will jump on the iPhone bandwagon. But a mix of dull reliability and adaptability is Linux&#8217;s strength. It comes partly from the cross-pollination of the various collaboration groups. For example, I now forsee some Maemo/Moblin collaboration on the horizon, especially since they share<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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