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	<title>Comments on: Mobile App Stores: The Next Two Years</title>
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		<title>By: Andreas Constantinou</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/10/mobile-app-stores-the-next-two-years/comment-page-1/#comment-68131</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Constantinou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jo,

Very good points. 

I believe the reduction in app prices is due to the &#039;discovery bottleneck&#039; imposed by the top-25 lists in App Stores. However discovery channels are expanding (via premium placement, recommendations, friend endorsements, multiple discovery channels, etc). At the same time, there are new types of apps for high-value content (e.g. guardian.co.uk app which sells at 2.39 GBP) custom apps for brands (monetised one-off), up-to-the minutes stock-trading apps, etc and various types of segmentation which allow developers to upsell (technically: exploit the app&#039;s perceived value).

With such a level of sophisticated segmentation and discovery channels, I see price erosion to apply to mass-market channels only. Moreover, consumer expectation on price is also going to be a function of discovery channel (think about shopping Prada vs a no-name brand, and think about shopping Prada in Milan vs a backstreet outlet).

IP infringement: yes, that is an issue, and one that can be countered outside China or only by discovery/distribution channels that care for IP issues (most channels do these days).

Re: paying a higher share to distribution channels as app stores multiply: this is a really good point, although I think this will manifest as a &quot;pay-to-use-channel&quot;, ie an opt-in marketing fee from the use of a promo channel as opposed to a compulsory rev share reduction. It&#039;s the way the FMCG distribution and retailing business works today.

- Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jo,</p>
<p>Very good points. </p>
<p>I believe the reduction in app prices is due to the &#8216;discovery bottleneck&#8217; imposed by the top-25 lists in App Stores. However discovery channels are expanding (via premium placement, recommendations, friend endorsements, multiple discovery channels, etc). At the same time, there are new types of apps for high-value content (e.g. guardian.co.uk app which sells at 2.39 GBP) custom apps for brands (monetised one-off), up-to-the minutes stock-trading apps, etc and various types of segmentation which allow developers to upsell (technically: exploit the app&#8217;s perceived value).</p>
<p>With such a level of sophisticated segmentation and discovery channels, I see price erosion to apply to mass-market channels only. Moreover, consumer expectation on price is also going to be a function of discovery channel (think about shopping Prada vs a no-name brand, and think about shopping Prada in Milan vs a backstreet outlet).</p>
<p>IP infringement: yes, that is an issue, and one that can be countered outside China or only by discovery/distribution channels that care for IP issues (most channels do these days).</p>
<p>Re: paying a higher share to distribution channels as app stores multiply: this is a really good point, although I think this will manifest as a &#8220;pay-to-use-channel&#8221;, ie an opt-in marketing fee from the use of a promo channel as opposed to a compulsory rev share reduction. It&#8217;s the way the FMCG distribution and retailing business works today.</p>
<p>- Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Ritter</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/10/mobile-app-stores-the-next-two-years/comment-page-1/#comment-68115</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo Ritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 13:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andreas, great article, thanks much!

You argue that there will be strong growth in the number of app stores and that, as a result, app stores will differentiate by specializing on specific market segments. &quot;Application mega retailing&quot; you call the trend on http://www.m-trends.org/2010/01/mobile-trends-2020.html. 

While I support this view in general, I expect the deterioration of app sales prices to become a significant opposing force in the game. I wonder about the impact falling app prices will have on the app store growth we all expect. Let me elaborate:

- Consumers expect apps to be free. There is already so much free content out there so that people will continue to expect even quality content to be free. As you said, the average sales price is falling already…

- Uncontrollable IP infringements. If you have published a successful app today, you get ten cheaper competitors tomorrow. This trend will even accelerate once web widget sales takes off since those come in plain source code. Essentially there’ll be no technical barrier to copy IP. This lowers the case for both, developers and stores.

- As retail prices are falling, developers will earn less with app sales. Consequently, they will continue their efforts to develop business models based on in-app sales or services. Example: Layar. However, service sales by-passes the store...

- The growing number of app stores forces developers to hand off a higher portion of their share to the distribution channels (this is the business model for the app store aggregators). This again forces developers to tab into in-app and service sales.

So, if app sale prices go down, if the ration between free and paid content goes up and if developers thrive for off-deck service sales models, what’ll be the sustainable business case for app store providers (at least those stores that count on sales revenue)? 

What&#039;s your take on these concerns?

-Jo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas, great article, thanks much!</p>
<p>You argue that there will be strong growth in the number of app stores and that, as a result, app stores will differentiate by specializing on specific market segments. &#8220;Application mega retailing&#8221; you call the trend on <a href="http://www.m-trends.org/2010/01/mobile-trends-2020.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.m-trends.org/2010/01/mobile-trends-2020.html</a>. </p>
<p>While I support this view in general, I expect the deterioration of app sales prices to become a significant opposing force in the game. I wonder about the impact falling app prices will have on the app store growth we all expect. Let me elaborate:</p>
<p>- Consumers expect apps to be free. There is already so much free content out there so that people will continue to expect even quality content to be free. As you said, the average sales price is falling already…</p>
<p>- Uncontrollable IP infringements. If you have published a successful app today, you get ten cheaper competitors tomorrow. This trend will even accelerate once web widget sales takes off since those come in plain source code. Essentially there’ll be no technical barrier to copy IP. This lowers the case for both, developers and stores.</p>
<p>- As retail prices are falling, developers will earn less with app sales. Consequently, they will continue their efforts to develop business models based on in-app sales or services. Example: Layar. However, service sales by-passes the store&#8230;</p>
<p>- The growing number of app stores forces developers to hand off a higher portion of their share to the distribution channels (this is the business model for the app store aggregators). This again forces developers to tab into in-app and service sales.</p>
<p>So, if app sale prices go down, if the ration between free and paid content goes up and if developers thrive for off-deck service sales models, what’ll be the sustainable business case for app store providers (at least those stores that count on sales revenue)? </p>
<p>What&#8217;s your take on these concerns?</p>
<p>-Jo</p>
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		<title>By: piyush</title>
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		<dc:creator>piyush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously article is very well written.I just want to add some point in it for ex. now is the time came where we can see a new platform which can support other platform also.
I have recently seen the MITR a new platform developed by spicelabs.in  which support almost all the platform whether its java, whether its symbian, whether its windows,or blackberry.and they tested more than 270 mobile phones.
I think here user will get what they want because user generally don&#039;t know what are the platforms, which platform is supported by his handset.I think this problem can be overcome by MITR.
for more details click the link below
http:spicelabs.in
Thankyou</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously article is very well written.I just want to add some point in it for ex. now is the time came where we can see a new platform which can support other platform also.<br />
I have recently seen the MITR a new platform developed by spicelabs.in  which support almost all the platform whether its java, whether its symbian, whether its windows,or blackberry.and they tested more than 270 mobile phones.<br />
I think here user will get what they want because user generally don&#8217;t know what are the platforms, which platform is supported by his handset.I think this problem can be overcome by MITR.<br />
for more details click the link below<br />
http:spicelabs.in<br />
Thankyou</p>
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		<title>By: Rahul</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/10/mobile-app-stores-the-next-two-years/comment-page-1/#comment-67901</link>
		<dc:creator>Rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 11:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>use of mobile are increasing very rapidly. Now mobile has all the capability to replace the laptop because every new day new applications are launching on the market.some are developing on java, blackberry,symbian, android, windows.
Recently spicelabs has launched a new technology MITR which support almost all the platform like java, symbian, blackberry, windows.
It is in evolutionary stage and they are working for others remaining platforms also .
so now we can enjoy all the features of laptop on mobile.
like shopping, games, chatting, emailing, social networking, puzzles, free sms to mobile, these all the application now possible with mobile also.
so have a look on these application on spicelabs.in sites and enjoy it
also search for spice app in getjar.
on these sites u can download these applications absolutely free.
its a all in one pack so u dont have to download separate for each application all u need to download one application spice application on your GPRS enabled mobile.
world is changing with more rapid rate that it would ever had in earlier years. so need of mobile is also arising because its not possible to use laptops in public places and carry laptop also a cumbersome process , so i think mobile is going to be a next version of laptops.............................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>use of mobile are increasing very rapidly. Now mobile has all the capability to replace the laptop because every new day new applications are launching on the market.some are developing on java, blackberry,symbian, android, windows.<br />
Recently spicelabs has launched a new technology MITR which support almost all the platform like java, symbian, blackberry, windows.<br />
It is in evolutionary stage and they are working for others remaining platforms also .<br />
so now we can enjoy all the features of laptop on mobile.<br />
like shopping, games, chatting, emailing, social networking, puzzles, free sms to mobile, these all the application now possible with mobile also.<br />
so have a look on these application on spicelabs.in sites and enjoy it<br />
also search for spice app in getjar.<br />
on these sites u can download these applications absolutely free.<br />
its a all in one pack so u dont have to download separate for each application all u need to download one application spice application on your GPRS enabled mobile.<br />
world is changing with more rapid rate that it would ever had in earlier years. so need of mobile is also arising because its not possible to use laptops in public places and carry laptop also a cumbersome process , so i think mobile is going to be a next version of laptops&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Krishna</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/10/mobile-app-stores-the-next-two-years/comment-page-1/#comment-67708</link>
		<dc:creator>Krishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article!!! In fact, i think the most recent developments in mobile applications will be unveiled at the Forum Nokia Conference at Bangalore next month. Looking forward to see some live demos at this big event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article!!! In fact, i think the most recent developments in mobile applications will be unveiled at the Forum Nokia Conference at Bangalore next month. Looking forward to see some live demos at this big event.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Constantinou</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/10/mobile-app-stores-the-next-two-years/comment-page-1/#comment-67673</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Constantinou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Christian - I &#039;ve added in Apppopular at the end of the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Christian &#8211; I &#8216;ve added in Apppopular at the end of the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Nøkleby</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/10/mobile-app-stores-the-next-two-years/comment-page-1/#comment-67671</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian Nøkleby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is yet another recommendation platform/service: App Popular (http://www.apppopular.com/)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is yet another recommendation platform/service: App Popular (<a href="http://www.apppopular.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.apppopular.com/</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: maheshdixit</title>
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		<dc:creator>maheshdixit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow what an article. simply love the way you write. I myself have explored the ovi strore of Nokia and i must say the mobile applications available there are superb. If you want to explore the ovi store. To knoe how Nokia’s new Ovi Store ensures developers have easy access to publish their applications, you can take part in the Forum Nokia Developer Conference ’09 to be held in Bangalore this December. http://www.nokiadevcon.in/index.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow what an article. simply love the way you write. I myself have explored the ovi strore of Nokia and i must say the mobile applications available there are superb. If you want to explore the ovi store. To knoe how Nokia’s new Ovi Store ensures developers have easy access to publish their applications, you can take part in the Forum Nokia Developer Conference ’09 to be held in Bangalore this December. <a href="http://www.nokiadevcon.in/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nokiadevcon.in/index.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: ASG</title>
		<link>http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/2009/10/mobile-app-stores-the-next-two-years/comment-page-1/#comment-67633</link>
		<dc:creator>ASG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andreas,

Many thanks for the timely article.  :)

With regard to the Key Building Blocks matrix, you may wish to consider an additional column for Post-Sale which might include developer backchannel, support, special offers, rewards and cross-sales.

Cheers
ASG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas,</p>
<p>Many thanks for the timely article.  <img src='http://www.visionmobile.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>With regard to the Key Building Blocks matrix, you may wish to consider an additional column for Post-Sale which might include developer backchannel, support, special offers, rewards and cross-sales.</p>
<p>Cheers<br />
ASG</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Nøkleby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Nøkleby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ioannis - Talking about B2B, Microsoft recently announced their intentions of an AppStore for Sharepoint: http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2009/11/microsoft-to-offer-application.php

And Intel is working on an AppStore for Intel Atom powered devices: http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ioannis &#8211; Talking about B2B, Microsoft recently announced their intentions of an AppStore for Sharepoint: <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2009/11/microsoft-to-offer-application.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2009/11/microsoft-to-offer-application.php</a></p>
<p>And Intel is working on an AppStore for Intel Atom powered devices: <a href="http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/" rel="nofollow">http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/</a></p>
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